I love my smart TV. I love the way it takes a long time to boot up because it's trying to refresh the advertisements on the home screen. I delight in the way it randomly restarts because it's downloaded an update without asking me, each of which makes the TV slower and slower with every subsequent install. I adore the way it buries the apps that I want to use, and that I use without fail every single time, below the apps that it's being paid to promote and which I have never touched in my life and would never use without the cold metal of a glock pressed hard against my sweating temple. I am infinitely thrilled by the way the interface lags constantly, due to the need to have one thousand unnecessary animations rendered on hardware ripped wholesale from a ten year old phone. I feel myself borne aloft on wings of pure joy when I am notified that my data will be collected and analysed to determine my useage patterns. Even now I am writing this from a field of beautiful flowers and soft luscious grass as I lie and look up happily at the bright blue sky, smiling happily to know that this is the future of technology
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in reply to Michael • • •Scott Killen 🇺🇸
in reply to tomb • • •Did you try standing at the rear of the TV to see if it behaves differently when it doesn't think you are around? 🙂
#UnsolicitedTechAdvice
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in reply to tomb • • •an update on this infuriatingly viral toot which continues to haunt my ass. the smart TV (named herein as a "Sony Bravia") died, got repaired, then died again, within the space of 3 months.
the same thing caused it to die both times: being turned off and unplugged so that I could vacuum behind the TV cabinet. understandably a TV which cannot deal with something as horrendous as "being occasionally turned off" was absolutely stupid, and I successfully yelled at the seller for a refund.
the bad smart TV has been replaced with a very large (42 inch), non-smart, monitor instead which is a fucking dream and simply pipes audio and video out of my media centre without trying to sell me shampoo at the same time. I will never buy a smart TV again as long as I live. have a nice day and please stop boosting this toot
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in reply to Joe • • •Philips 438P1 42.5" UHD 4K 60Hz 5MS IPS W-LED Monitor
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in reply to tomb • • •PLE! That's where I bought the components for my first machine, a bit over 25 years ago, a P3 800mhz with 4mb of ram and I think a 256mb hdd
Sorry, I just got all of the nostalgia haha
This might be the answer I'm looking for - thank you!
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in reply to tomb • • •One of these: https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-tv-hat/
On a Pi
With some of this:
https://libreelec.tv/
Fulfills all my (admittedly limited) TV requirements with the occasional adjunct of a budget chromecast dongle so I can watch GCN bikeracing from my phone.
Buy a Raspberry Pi TV HAT – Raspberry Pi
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in reply to tomb • • •Mo Ⓐ☭🇵🇸
in reply to tomb • • •a lot of software is written on top of layers of other software by people who do not really understand or care to understand what the CPU or memory is really doing, all to serve features users don't really need.
You would expect with technology getting better computers would get faster but it's not actually the case
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in reply to tomb • • •yeah, I've used a few brands of SmartTV over the years, and the Samsung one seems to be the shittiest.
My favourite is my FirefoxOS based Panasonic. The OS is so simple and basic, but it's very quick to achieve what you want because of it, and there are only 3 small advert boxes that are non intrusive and easy to ignore.
Isho'ye
in reply to tomb • • •Exactly why I'm reading this toot on a 40" display from 2006 that I found on the street next to a trash bin.
Took a bit of work to dig up firmware and service menu info, then update to allow native 1080p60 on the HDMI, but AVSForum came through again.
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in reply to tomb • • •Lose-lose!
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in reply to tomb • • •The song of my people.
I especially love how, for those of us who eschew Smart "anything" for all of the "benefits" you itemize, it is increasingly harder to find Dumb appliances and electronics anymore.
I drive my TV from a computer thanks. I just want a really big really crisp screen with 3-4 HDMI inputs and color, contrast and brightness controls, is that so much to ask? Apparently so.
Twelve :GrapheneOS:
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in reply to tomb • • •- every company
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in reply to tomb • • •Grum999 :verified:
in reply to tomb • • •didn't tried this FREE TV yet?
https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/15/23721674/telly-free-tv-streaming-ilya-pozin-ads
On my side, I gave my TV in 2005 and never had one anymore since this time
I feel really better without than with
This free TV comes with two screens
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in reply to tomb • • •this is so wonderfully written. I will save this post as the benchmark of how you can write prose where every sentence is dripping with pure sarcasm!! Well done.
As for Smart TV software, for think the manufacturers of TVs should just give up trying. There are already at least 2 ecosystems that are leaps and bounds better: Roku and Android TV. Just plug one of them into your TV and forget it was ever "Smart".
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in reply to tomb • • •you said that you don’t like unsolicited tech advice, so I ask myself why I am writing this 😃
I gave away our expensive Smart TV and bought a cheap dumb TV at a discount store for $180 that is only 1080. It has rabbit ears antenna and one HDMI interface, that is it. I plug an Apple TV into the HDMI and I am super happy, even with the poor video quality. We all need to find our own path to happiness 😎
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in reply to tomb • • •I have yet to purchase one of these.
Please inform me of the brand, so that I may share in your joy
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in reply to tomb • • •I used a tube TV, from about 25 years ago, until last year; then I unplugged it. Wasn't used anymore.
Doubtful if I will ever need to buy a new TV: too much news and entertainment on the mobile phone anyway.
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in reply to tomb • • •*Silence*
*In awe*
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in reply to tomb • • •god this is so relatable
i want all my technology to be dumb now, i dont need any of the fancy stuff if this is the price
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in reply to tomb • • •For those seeking alternatives, here in the United Snakes, Walmart, of all places, sells a streaming device under their Onn brand. Perhaps available online,.
For guidance on how to use it to its fullest extent, visit this site: troypoint dot com. 🥥
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in reply to tomb • • •What brand is your TV?
So I don't buy it
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in reply to tomb • • •Blocking lots of advertising domains already...
Pi-hole – Network-wide Ad Blocking
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in reply to tomb • • •Roy Brander
in reply to tomb • • •Buy a large computer monitor. Watch all your streaming through a laptop connected to it. Have a bluetooth keyboard/trackpad as your remote.
Get an Over-the-Air antenna and a digitizer box so that the laptop can watch local TV. Drop your cable/sat.
http://brander.ca/cordcutcuug/
BTW, I actually found a 65" OLED TV that does none of that, at least if I fire it up listening to HDMI1 that is a computer. Maybe it realizes it's been relegated to "monitor" and accepted the situation.
"My Cord-Cutting Adventure", a Presentation for the Calgary Unix Users Group
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in reply to tomb • • •You have my sympathy, but the prose was beautiful. I started hearing 'America the Beautiful' playing in your head as I read it.
I suppose this is why they say an artist must suffer.
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in reply to tomb • • •Although I don't have a "smart" TV I do have Amazon's Fire TV Cube with Alexa. It was a gift from my mom (which is why I feel compelled to use it!)
It does all of the ridiculous things you mention. I am constantly frustrated by it.
And I'm constantly surprised that Amazon is seemingly getting away with this disingenuous behavior.
When Amazon offered a Fire Tablet with ads they clearly disclosed the ads and provided a discount if you were willing to put up with ads.
Amazon's forced-ads in their Fire TV Cubes seems to be very deceptive anti-consumer behavior.
(And my mom knows not to get me anything like this in the future without checking with me first!)
#FTC
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in reply to tomb • • •Also it's been a long time since I didn't shop for a TV. Are Smart TV all you can find nowadays with a nice image and long lifespan?
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in reply to tomb • • •linux + monitor + tuner = resolved.
and it's the same price -- or less.
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in reply to tomb • • •Same, but I've dug deep deep deep into the menus and now have VLC and SmartTube ( https://smarttubeapp.github.io/ ) installed as my default first row apps. SmartTube is really excellent, 1,000% better than the Youtube ad-infested default app.
And I've deleted everything else I can. It's not perfect, but a lot better than the rubbish it was stuffed up with. I also managed to install the Criterion app - that's the only streaming service we can be bothered to use. It does take a bit of fiddling; as a UX professional I can testify that those menus are not designed to be user-friendly; they're designed, I believe, to be a disincentive to users modifying the default UI.
#Androidtv #SmartTV #tech #ux #DarkPatterns
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in reply to tomb • • •Kevin Russell
in reply to tomb • • •It is impossible to search effectively, but there are dumb tvs, amd a class of giant monitors, and commercial displays, even commercial displays without network hardware, just graphic input. Then build your own box with linux and etc etc etc etc. More people buying dumb tvs the better.
Oh and microphones which would be fine cause there is no police state. Where you live.
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in reply to tomb • • •https://www.hauppauge.com/pages/support/support_linux.html
https://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_colossus2.html
Hauppauge | Colossus 2 Product Description
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in reply to tomb • • •Phil Yahbreaches
in reply to tomb • • •I love how my Smart TV apps freak out, and either lock up solid, or restart the app completely, when they fail to communicate with an advertising or user tracking server, because the TV can only communicate to the internet thru Pi-Hole.
There's nothing better than paying for a streaming service that's almost unusable because it crashes 3 times everytime you start it because it can't talk to Big Brother to resell your data to someone else.
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in reply to tomb • • •Thank you. Love your text. I can really feel your emotions.
Unfortunately I cannot reproduce them anymore. Last week our daughter moved out and we gave her the TV for her new flat.
I am not as good with words as you, but you should try this elevating feeling of no TV. Alone the possibilities of redecorating the room are mind boggling.
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in reply to tomb • • •Id like to have a dumb display but they are a lot more expensive
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in reply to tomb • • •I will never, ever, ever buy a TV again that has Google TV or Android TV as its operating system. It's a fuming pile of crap. I have to reboot my TV a few times a month, and sometimes even pull the plug to make it function like normal again.
*sighs*
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in reply to tomb • • •These are all great reasons why my next unit will be a projector instead. I can use my old laptop to provide whatever video I want to watch without the prying eyes.
Also, I've seen some limited info that projectors are easier on the eyes because the light is reflecting from the screen instead of going straight from the light source to the eyes.
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I'm a bit sad not everything between #Mastodon and Lemmy or #Kbin communicates well yet.
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in reply to tomb • • •consider denying your TV access to the internet + a factory reset.
If you miss any functionality it had before just plug in a personal computer and have it do those things in a semicontrolled computational environment.
Angela Scholder
in reply to tomb • • •Diddums
in reply to tomb • • •I just want you to know your post inspired me to install a new launcher on my tv from the play store and my life is better for it.
No more ads, faster boots, and I can even hide all the default apps I don't use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.efesser.flauncher
FLauncher - Apps on Google Play
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in reply to tomb • • •This is why I rely on my PS4 for streaming purposes and wouldn't buy a smart TV
It's not perfect, but it consistently prioritises the services I actually use, it's going to have a decent selection of platforms for the foreseeable future, and it maintains a decent UI experience for the lifetime of the console.
Andy Wootton
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